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Descendants of the Wye Valley Dance Family
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James Dance (1806-81) and his Monmouth Family |
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James Dance was baptised by Thomas and Catherine at Ganarew in 1806. He married Drusilla Price (born 1810) from Shropshire at Monmouth in 1831. They had six children, James 1832, John 1834, Mary Ann 1839, Jane 1843, Agnes 1848 and Elizabeth 1849. The first five were born at Monmouth and Elizabeth at Welsh Newton. In 1841 James was recorded as a farm labourer living next door to his brother Joseph at Monmouth. Their homes were described on the census as being in "that part of Over Monmow which lies to the West of the turnpike road from Rockfield to Mitchel Troy." (To find that area today - you would walk to the end of Monmouth's main shopping area and cross the medieval Monnow bridge.) It seems that all his children except for Elizabeth were born there. The girls of the family mainly found work as domestic servants. Their Christian names were carried through to later generations. Agnes Dance (1848) appears to have not married and also travelled North. She is recorded on the 1871 census at Lancaster and in 1881 near Kendall. By 1849 James was back at Welsh Newton as a farmer of a modest 5 acres, and may have also worked with his brothers at St Wulstans Farm. He remained at Welsh Newton till his death in 1881. |
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Welsh Newton
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St Wulstan's Farm, Welsh Newton |
Monnow Street, Monmouth
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I was recently (May 2011) contacted by Ian Pearson who is a Carnforth born descendant of John Dance. He is an experienced archivist who visited the Monmouthshire Archives and the PRO to research his great-great grandfather's military record. I
discovered that
John joined the Royal Monmouth Militia (which makes me wonder if
he later went overseas with the regular army.) Following that visit to South Wales I then went to the Public
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The Monmouth Militia was made up of part-time soldiers. Its officers were appointed by the Lord Lieutenant of the county, and were from the higher social classes. Most importantly, the regiments were 'embodied' (assembled) from time to time for training. It could only be deployed at home, but provided an important contribution to the maintenance of civil order and to home defence. From 1816 until the 1850s, the Regiment, in common with other county militias, was for the most part inactive. In 1852, however, another Militia Act revived the militias. The Act abandoned the principle of conscription, which had fallen into disuse, in favour of voluntary recruitment. The Monmouthshire Militia was revived with the name the Royal Monmouthshire Light Infantry. The Regiment was embodied in 1854, at the time of the Crimean War, but only for home defence duties. It was posted to Pembroke Dock, South Wales in January 1855 and on Monday the 6th February 1855 relieved the 31st East Surrey Regiment who were bound for the Crimea. There was always a certain amount of pressure on militiamen to volunteer for overseas service and it appears from Ian's research that the Dance brothers were 'disembodied' in April 1855 and probably attached to a fighting regiment. The Crimean War ended in 1856.
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| The Royal Monmouth Militia at Pembroke Dock in 1855. |
An 1854 recruiting poster |
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After serving in the military both brothers moved North. James Dance (1832-1892) went to the Barrow-in-Furness area where he was employed as a blacksmith. He had married Elizabeth Morgan (1843) from Ledbury, Herefordshire, at Cardiff in 1864. The couple had two children, Drusilla (1865) born at Runcorn Gap and Agnes (1868) at Ledbury. They were living at 37 Rawlinson Street, Dalton in Furness on the 1871 census and 32 Clive Street, Barrow in Furness in 1881 and 1891. Agnes was employed as a servant at Streatham, London according to the 1901 census. Drusilla was an apprenticed dress-maker staying with an aunt at Ledbury in 1881 and back with her parents as a dress-maker in 1891. In 1892 she married widower Henry Herbert Silver (1864). He was a company accountant and from Tipton, Staffordshire. The couple settled at Hawcoat Lane, Barrow. The widowed Elizabeth Dance was still at Clive Street in 1901 but was living with daughter Drusilla and her husband in 1911.
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John & Elizabeth Dance
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His brother John Dance (1834) also a blacksmith, married Elizabeth Ann Gandy at Liverpool in 1864. She was born at Widnes in 1848. They settled at Carnforth, Lancashire and had twelve surviving children. Five of their daughters inherited his sisters and mother's Christian names. John died in June 1895 aged 61. * The notes in italics are from Ian Pearson's research.
I think there was a first child born before they came to Carnforth. The
Warton burial register shows a James Dance of Carnforth aged 4 in 1869, and the
internet tells me of a James Dance born in the Widnes area in 1865.
Drusilla Dance born at Warton 1867. (You will know this is a family name dating back to the marriage of James Dance and Drusilla Price in 1831). Drusilla married railway guard Thomas Haydon (born 1867) in 1890 (Prescot district) - I've only realised in the last few weeks that this is her first cousin on her mother's side - the son of Thomas Haydon and Mary Jane Gandy - Thomas, Jane and Thomas jnr were lodging with the Dances on the 1871 census when Drusilla was 4 and Thomas was 3! ** His father also named Thomas Haydon (1848) was born in Cowes, France to Irish railway labourer Thomas Haydon (born 1816) and his wife Mary. Tom. Sources - Warrington 1861 census and Frodsham, Cheshire 1851. Thomas and Drusilla Haydon had seven surviving children, all born at Ditton.
Elizabeth
Alice Dance born
1869. A school teacher on the 1891 census. She married grocer
John Hodgson (born 1870) in 1893 at Carnforth.
Irene
Vera 1903
Mary Anne
Dance (known as Molly)
born
1876.
She married
Blackburn
telegraph
clerk
William Henry Hardacre
(1875) in 1899
at Carnforth Church. (It looks from the
marriage entry that Will Hardacre was lodging with my gt grandparents at 8
Grosvenor Place). Living at 41 Grosvenor Place in 1904 and 1911. Buried at Carnforth.
Kate (known as Kitty)
born 1878. She
married Bradford
postman Tom Birtles
(born 1879) at Carnforth church in 1901 (the marriage register gives them
both at 103 Hall Street, so perhaps Tom was a lodger.) Son Tom born
1902.
Peter Gandy Dance
born
1881
Jane
Dance
born 1886 (known as Ginny - which made my father think she was called
Virginia - but Uncle Dave was Scottish - so I think he was calling her
'Jeanie'). A servant at Morecambe and lodging with brother William in
1901. A school teacher living at home with her widowed mother in 1911. She
married
David Andrews
from Scotland (Glasgow I think)
in 1913.
No children, but this couple were apparently great fun to be with.
James
Dance
born 1888. Isaac
Dance
(known as Ike)
born 1892.
He too 'went back to Widnes'.
Married
May Shaw
at Ditton
in 1915. Three
children. Isaac
appears to have been brought up by his mother's sister Jane Fearnett
(nee Gandy). He is recorded on the 1901 and 1911 census forms as living
with them at Ditton. In 1911 his occupation was given as working in the
traffic office of the L&NW Railway.
Lavinia
Dance
born 1894. Her father, John, died in June 1895, aged 61. 1911 census
records her as a blouse-maker, living at home, the sweet shop 103 Hall
Street, Carnforth with her widowed mother and sister Jane.
Before
I sign off a final note about the Dances. They seem to have been a
convivial lot. My father remembered two things vividly
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The Gandys
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Elizabeth Ann Dance's father was Penketh born shoemaker Peter Gandy (1827-1900). He had married Alice Atherton (1827-1897) in 1848. The Gandy family were very well known local cobblers in the Warrington area for many generations. Around 1800-1850 the inhabitants of Penketh were mainly employed as bakers, cabinet makers, cobblers, brewers or boatmen and hauliers on the Mersey and Sankey canal. (the Gandys were a large cobbling family exporting shoes to the United States) A group of cottages in Chapel Road, Penketh was known as Cobblers Square, called after a cobbler named Gandy. Thomas Gandy (1812-1871) lived in one of the cottages called Gandy´s Cottage. Other names used were Thomas Gandy´s cottages, Gandy´s House and Gandy´s Row. Most of the families in this area were engaged in the business of shoemaking. Thomas Gandy became a very successful master shoemaker employing his brothers Edward and James and many other men apprentices. He sent his boots and shoes to shopkeepers in Wigan and Manchester besides getting up large shipping orders for Liverpool merchants to export abroad. Isaac´s older brothers William, Peter and James were all shoemakers. In 1861 Williams occupation was given as cordwainer employing three men and an apprentice. Throughout
the 19th century, census, church and other records for the Warrington area
contain a wealth of evidence for the Gandy’s involvement in the
shoe-making trade and other trades with links to footwear, such as
hosiery. For example John Gandy was a hosier in The Market Place and
Golden Square in Warrington in the 1820`s while Mrs Mary Gandy served the
nobility, gentry and clergy in Church Street and Horsemarket Street.
The
connection between the Gandy family and shoes is even older. I have found
Gandys who were shoemakers in the 18th century, such as William Gandy of
Prescot, who married Sarah Lingham in 1767 and John Gandy, also shoemaker
of Prescot, who married Jane Whittle in 1768. Thomas Gandy, clogger,
married Mary Houghton in 1826. James Gandy shoemaker married Ann Smethurst
in 1761. Thos Gandy shoemaker married Ann Mason in 1768. Joseph Another
specialty of the Gandy cobblers was clogs: “When you talk of clogs in
Warrington, people immediately think of the Gandy’s. And when you
mention that name to-day you are referring to 70-year-old Mr. John Gandy,
in Buttermarket Street, and his cousin Mr. Douglas Gandy, of Mersey Street
— only remaining cloggers in Warrington, and the last of a line of
cloggers who began a family business in 1818.” Mr. Douglas
Gandy took over his business from his father Mr. William Gandy, who
founded it in 1871. The main product of the Gandy cloggers were a hand-made wooden clogs, a Lancashire version of the wooden sabot which came to England with Flemish weavers. The clog was used in the tan-yards, factories laundries, breweries and works in the town. “The tiny shop and workrooms at the corner of Mersey Street and Rose and Crown Street date back to around 1850, and over the years tens of thousands of hand-made clogs of all shapes and sizes have been assembled there. These were once sold all over the north to factory and textile workers, and in recent times have been exported to America, Jamaica and other countries. (from Texan Grant L Davis's tree)
Warrington Memory Lane Poem (click here)
Gandy's
clog shop was still at 46 Mersey St (the address given in 'Warrington
and District Directory'(1951-52) in my childhood, in the mid to The 'clogger''s shop was in the narrower part of Mersey St, where there were intermittent small shops and nondescript small houses (it was all, I think, terraced). I used to go down Mersey Street to get the bus to the Grammar school from Bridge Foot regularly from 1954 onwards, but I don't recall ever seeing anybody go in or out of the properties in this part of the street, where the shop was located. The area was shabby and run-down, very much aware of its doomed status. Halfway along, on the corner of Academy St, there was a Spiritualist chapel, which we kids imagined to harbour ghosts. This link to the afterlife was very much in character with the posthumous nature of the rest of the street, all that was left of a once active community, now waiting for the end. My mother recalled that in the 1910s, when she was a girl, the triangle formed by the area between the bottom of Bridge St, Mersey St and Litton's Row was a Chinese quarter, where they were afraid to go, for fear of ending up in the cooking pot! (multicultural understanding was not very widespread in those days). I don't know if anyone else recalls anything about this aspect of the area. Stan Smith
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Peter and Alice Gandy appear to have had twelve surviving children. Of those six in this photo -
Kate (1856-1936) married Irish cooper William Isaac Bingham (1858-1920) in 1878. He and her brother James were rugby players. The couple had eight children.
Henry (1852-1930) married Phoebe Wareing (1858-1932) at Runcorn in 1877. He worked as a labourer at a chemical works. They had eight children.
Lucy (1859-1935) married joiner Robert Beecroft (1861-1936) in 1884. They had eight children.
Elizabeth Ann (1848) married Monmouth born blacksmith John Dance (1834) in 1864. They produced twelve children.
Jane (Mary Jane) (1849) married carpenter Thomas Haydon (1848) in 1868. Thomas, who was employed as a solicitor's clerk when only 13, was born in France, the son of Irish railway labourer Thomas Haydon (1816) whose children were born in Lancashire, France and Scotland. In 1871 Thomas & Jane were lodging with her sister Elizabeth's family in Carnforth where Thomas was employed as a clerk in the Iron Works. By 1881 the couple had moved to Wolverhampton where he worked as a carpenter. He died sometime between 1881 and 1884. They had one child, Thomas (1868) who married his cousin Drusilla Dance in 1890. Jane Haydon remarried in 1885. He was chemical worker Thomas Fearnett (1859).
James Gandy (1864-1928), who was a well-known Widnes rugby player, married Mary Elizabeth Carmichael (1865) in 1885. They had two children, Martha Jane (1886-1974) and James (1903). On the 1901 census James is listed as a self employed carter.
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Back - Kate, Henry and Lucy Middle - Jane, Peter and Elizabeth Front : James |
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From Ian Pearson Here's
a photo which I think is very special. It actually came from my
grandmother, Barbara Pearson, nee Wood (one of Agnes Wood nee Dance
daughters). I
pressed my grandmother several times to identify this man but all she
could say was 'Uncle John' |
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Here
are my great grandparents
Agnes (nee Dance, born 1873) and her husband William Wood
(1870). William looks rather severe and Agnes a bit snooty - but since I know that my father was so very fond of these two (he spent a lot of his childhood with them and spoke of them often with affection) - they obviously weren't as fierce as they look! Date - William died in 1927, so 1925? ps - The photo is by Wynspeare Herbert of Lancaster, a well-known local photographer of the 1920s and 1930s. I have a few of his on both sides of my family. Ian |
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Lavinia Dance - youngest child 1894 - looks different from the others - long face instead of a round face) with husband John Winskill. Probably about 1920. They lived at Kendal - maybe taken there. Ian
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Molly
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More from Ian - The Birtles Family You
have also done some more research and that has opened a new avenue for me.
I had no idea that there was a Tom Birtles jr, and this is important
because I have four photos of a family wedding in the 1930s (one attached
in case you're interested). I've been trying to make it a Hardacre
wedding (Gert or Lal) but that just won't fit. I now think it's
Lilian Birtles wedding (Lancaster District Sep 1937 to a Robertson).
I can recognise Lucy (lady on far left) and Bob Sanderson (kneeling with
pipe!), then there's someone who looks like a young version of Tom Birtles
(the other person kneeling, so I'm guessing this is TB jr). The
bride could be Lilian (I'm fairly certain, but not 100% sure, but it's
certainly not Gert Hardacre, and I have only vague memories of Lal). Searching through free bmd I noticed a Tom Birtles born Lancaster District Sep 1902, and a Tom Birtles death Lancaster District June 1949 age 71 (this is also by one of those strange coincidences the quarter in which I was born).
I think the 'No Bubbles' is possibly a reference to the Morecambe Bubbles Swimming complex opened in 1936. Announced with great fanfare, the Super Swimming Stadium was built at a cost of £185,000 on the site of a former ship breaking business. Boasting room for 1,200 bathers and accommodation for 3,000 spectators the stadium was an almost immediate success with locals and tourists alike enjoying a cool dip in the midday sun. Costing just 6d (half price for children) for a day, and seven shillings & sixpence for a season ticket, the stadium and its 110ft long pool soon became the place to be during the warm summer months. Tom
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This
photo was taken outside 41 Grosvenor Place, Carnforth, home of Molly and
Will Hardacre; date about 1928/9 (the little boy at the front is Edgar
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Edmund (Teddy) Hodgson (1898-1960) son of John Hodgson and Elizabeth Alice Dance (1867)
James Salter missionary. Amongst those he recruited were Teddy Hodgson an old friend who was settled in a prospering business and fighting the call of God. Salter walked into his office thinner than he had seen him last and said "well Teddy what about Congo?" In a matter of seconds as Salter prayed quietly the battle was won and a recruit made.
In 1960 Congo was falling into terrible conflict, missionaries and Christians were being killed. Jimmy Salter flew out to Congo in September and met up with his good friend Teddy Hodgson. Over the next few weeks things got worse until they were taken hostage by the new local regime of fanatical rebels. They only escaped with their lives because of the intervention and rescue by 150 United Nation troops. It was just a few weeks later that news came out that Teddy along with a New Zealander had tried to get supplies through to some of their evangelists but were taken prisoner by the rebels and butchered with machetes as they prayed for their murderers.
from "PENTECOSTAL PIONEERS REMEMBERED" by Keith Malcomson.
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